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		<title>Using Audio Files to Provide Feedback &#8211; 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Classroom Conversations&#8217; feedback
This is the conclusion to a three-part series on how I use audio files to provide my students with feedback. As I said in the previous two posts, my students really like getting feedback orally for a variety of reasons. I like using audio because it provides me with an authentic  and pedagogically [...]]]></description>
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<p>This is the conclusion to a three-part series on how I use audio files to provide my students with feedback. As I said in the previous two posts, my students really like getting feedback orally for a variety of reasons. I like using audio because it provides me with an authentic  and pedagogically sound medium for both further listening  practice and communicating with my students on a more personal level (I hope my voice is warmer than my pencil).</p>
<p>The third use of oral feedback I would like to describe is that of conversing with students on a more fun and informal level. I call this ‘classroom conversations’. I suppose it could be sub-titled ‘The Teacher’s Weekly Journal Entry for his Students’.</p>
<p>All I do is press record and chatter away to myself at the end of the week about what I thought of the week and my classes. I then put the saved mp3 file on a shared folder for my students to access. I do an online version of this using the excellent collaborative timeline site <a href="http://www.ourstory.com/" target="_blank">OurStory.com</a>. I thoroughly recommend this site for building up the story of your class throughout the semester.</p>
<p>For some reason, my students seem to like listening to me rambling on about nothing in particular. I think the real reason is that I try and mention each of the class by name and they want to get to “their bit”. This sometimes makes for a bit of fun conversation / banter at the start of class after the weekend. Some students want to know why I said what I said, while others want to know why they didn’t get a (bigger) mention. This is usually a good carrot to encourage students to work hard in class. Hard, diligent and studious workers always get lots of praise <img src='http://seanbanville.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This form of feedback really gives me a chance to tell students my side of things. The classroom can so often be an ‘us’ (teachers) verses ‘them’ (students) situation. It’s a good opportunity to show students that teachers are humans. And that we have feelings <img src='http://seanbanville.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here are some of the things I have put in a ‘classroom conversation’ mp3 file that surprised my students and hopefully made me more approachable:</p>
<ul>
<li>My heart was beating overtime when Supervisor      X was observing me last Tuesday.</li>
<li>I didn’t sleep well on Monday night      because I was so worried about students’ exam scores.</li>
<li>I was so proud to be with my class on the      recent field trip – They were all so responsible.</li>
<li>I was very happy that class told me about      Student Y’s problem. It meant I could change my lesson plan and do      something more fun.</li>
<li>Student Z told me she liked my lesson and      that made me happy all day.</li>
<li>I hate giving presentations so much I lose      control of my lips and my voice goes up and down at will.</li>
<li>I worry that when students waste time or      don’t do their homework, they won’t get the job they want or go to the      university of their choice.</li>
<li>I was very sad at the mess the students      left the class in on Thursday afternoon and had to spend 30 minutes      tidying up their rubbish.</li>
</ul>
<p>Some of the good things about using this kind of feedback are:</p>
<ul>
<li>It brings you closer to your students.</li>
<li>Students like it.</li>
<li>It practices students in authentic      listening.</li>
<li>You can introduce things that you might      not have time for in class.</li>
<li>You can reinforce things students might      not have been prepared to listen to in class (especially good after a poor      set of exam grades).</li>
<li>Students will respond – either face to      face, in writing or with their own mp3.</li>
<li>It’s another avenue to address classroom      management issues.</li>
<li>It’s a good way to recognize quieter, less      confident  students and show them      they are valuable members of the      class.</li>
<li>It gets students taking more of an interest      in their role in the class.</li>
<li>It gets me thinking more about my class      and how I can make or do things better.</li>
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<p>Try it at the end of this week and let me know how it goes.</p>
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		<title>Using Audio Files To Provide Feedback &#8211; 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Progress reports
I have found that providing students with progress reports via audio files is a very motivating alternative to providing written feedback on their progress. Generally, I do both. I am required to enter written feedback in the online records kept for my students. However, there are several things that don’t overly excite me about [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have found that providing students with progress reports via audio files is a very motivating alternative to providing written feedback on their progress. Generally, I do both. I am required to enter written feedback in the online records kept for my students. However, there are several things that don’t overly excite me about this:</p>
<ol>
<li>I sometimes      find them to be overly formal and (on occasion) stilted.</li>
<li>They occur too      infrequently – usually mid- and end-of-semester &#8211; to provide students with      useful information.</li>
<li>They can (on      occasion) fall prey to ticking-the-boxes syndrome and thus can (on occasion) not be so overly heartfelt.</li>
</ol>
<p>Now…</p>
<p>This is why I like giving audio files to students as progress reports.</p>
<p>Reasons for this are:</p>
<ol>
<li>It gets      students to practice authentic and relevant listening. They have a real      reason to listen and are usually extremely motivated to do so.</li>
<li>It is more      relaxed than the formal, college-required progress reports.</li>
<li>You can      make the feedback fun and irreverent.</li>
<li>You can (on      occasion) say things that you could never put online.</li>
<li>You can      really personalize it.</li>
<li>Their      parents don’t know about the audio files (Shhh!!) whereas parents usually      see the more formal written progress reports.</li>
<li>You can say      a WHOLE LOT MORE in an audio file than you could ever write in a formal written report (unless you      wanted to dedicate your winter break to progress-report writing).</li>
<li>You can do      it very often. It’s not overly difficult to do every two weeks. Would love      to do it every week, but…</li>
<li>It’s quick –      You can do progress reports for a class of 20 in 30 minutes.</li>
<li>Students      really appreciate the personalization and extra effort.</li>
<li>The effect      of the feedback can be extremely immediate– you can almost guess from a      student’s face which part of their feedback they are listening to.</li>
<li>Providing      lots of enthusiastic praise in the audio files works wonders.</li>
<li>I have      found students like to listen to each other’s feedback more than they      would read it.</li>
<li>You can      easily tailor it to those who need it more.</li>
<li>It really      gets you thinking more about your students, what they need and how they      are doing.</li>
<li>You can      provide the class with a global feedback file on how they’re doing      collectively in addition to individual files.</li>
<li>Giving      students audio files can encourage students to respond – either via their      own mp3 or in writing.</li>
<li>It makes me      appear more human to them (I think – could be wrong).</li>
<li>Given      regularly, it really comes part of a system of monitoring progress.</li>
<li>It’s fun –      Students like it.</li>
<li>They can reciprocate and give you mp3 feedback.</li>
</ol>
<p>In the upcoming semester, I’d like to try and provide this kind of progress reporting using VoiceThread. I’m sure students will respond so much more to the threaded audio format than the clunkier option of mailing the audio file or leaving it on shared drives. It would be nice to have more of a conversation with the students using media they are so comfortable and familiar with using.</p>
<p>Will keep you posted.</p>
<p>PS I use the free audio editor/recorder from <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/" target="_blank">Audacity</a>. It&#8217;s pretty much like MS Word except for sound and not letters (you record, copy, paste and save!).</p>
<p>The Audacity manual is <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/manual-1.2/howto_manual.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Here are some YouTube tutorials on how to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZjaTebJVPA" target="_blank">record</a> and how to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbqJVC6kQ50" target="_blank">edit</a>.</p>
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		<title>Using Audio Files To Provide Feedback &#8211; 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feedback on Writing
I provide feedback to my students using mp3 files. I record them using the free audio editor and recorder Audacity (you can download versions for Windows, Mac and Linux/Unix).
I have found providing recorded oral feedback via an mp3 file to be a very useful addition to my feedback arsenal. I needed a little [...]]]></description>
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<p>I provide feedback to my students using mp3 files. I record them using the free audio editor and recorder <a href="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/">Audacity</a> (you can download versions for Windows, Mac and Linux/Unix).</p>
<p>I have found providing recorded oral feedback via an mp3 file to be a very useful addition to my feedback arsenal. I needed a little time to get into the swing of things but once I did, I loved it (and so too did my students). It’s very easy. I just record the feedback, save as mp3 and then e-mail it to the students.</p>
<p>I would suggest reducing the file size to 32 kpbs (if you can) so files don’t clog up e-mail InBoxes.</p>
<p><strong>Example</strong></p>
<p>Here’s an example text. I write numbers on the text where students need to focus their attention. When I record the feedback, I ask the students to look at number one, and then provide the feedback, and then do the same for #2, etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://seanbanville.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/writing.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-60" title="writing" src="http://seanbanville.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/writing-300x214.jpg" alt="audio feedback on writing" width="296" height="211" /></a></p>
<p>Teachers have asked me if it’s quicker than providing written feedback. In my experience, it takes a little longer if the text is short but saves time if the text is longer. Using audio files also saves time if you want to provide more extensive and comprehensive feedback.</p>
<p>Here are some of the things I initially had to get used to:</p>
<ul>
<li>Finding what to say and how to say it to be of maximum benefit to      students.</li>
<li>Starting a new sentence again if I made a mistake (in Audacity you      just select the mistake and delete it, as you would do with a piece of      text in Word).</li>
<li>Cutting down on umms and ahhs.</li>
<li>Creating an easy to recognize naming system when saving the mp3      files. I used the class name + student initials + writing task name (e.g.      DF2-05_AM_cities.mp3).</li>
<li>Finding the time and a quiet area to get into the habit of      recording feedback.</li>
<li>Some people might say they don’t like the sound of their own voice,      but this disappears after a while.</li>
</ul>
<p>Here are the reasons why I like and recommend using sound files for feedback:</p>
<ul>
<li>Students like them<br />
They really pay more attention to what’s on a sound file than what I write      on paper. They also seem to get ‘excited’ at receiving one in their mail.</li>
<li>It makes a change from red ink<br />
Whatever colour ink you use for correction, it’s usually messy business.      Some students might need a microscope to read your notes. I know my      corrections can sometimes look more like a maze of insertion marks and      words.</li>
<li>It practices listening<br />
Listening to the corrections is a valid and authentic listening task.      Students are usually quite motivated to listen and will press play several      times to make sure they got it all.</li>
<li>It’s an activity in itself<br />
This is a sneaky one – The audio provides students with a whole new      activity of listening for specific information and re-engaging and      correcting their text. Great for recycling language and getting students      to think.</li>
<li>It makes the students rewrite the draft<br />
Always a good thing. In my experience, they are more engaged in the      rewriting process with audio correction than with my scrawled notes.</li>
<li>It gets students used to metalanguage<br />
The audio files are a good opportunity to reinforce grammar terms they      might not be so familiar with. This is particularly useful for lower      levels. Audio files give students more processing time to work out exactly      what those big, confusing words are the teacher keeps saying in class      (like present progressive, apostrophe, adjective…).</li>
<li>It is quicker than writing if there’s a lot you want to say</li>
<li>It’s useful with tiny handwriting on A8 paper<br />
No matter how hard I try to convince my students of the virtues of A4, I      still get essays on Post-It-note-sized paper. You need an ultra thin pen      and a microscope to notate these. Using numbers and audio makes this      process cleaner and easier.</li>
<li>It forces me to think more carefully about grading my speech and      saying what I need to say as succinctly as possible.</li>
</ul>
<p>So, I thoroughly recommend using audio to provide feedback. However, if you <strong>really</strong> want to push the boat out – use audio and visual. This is one of my New Year resolutions. Russell Stannard has excellent tutorials on how to use screencasts in providing feedback on writing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&amp;storycode=207117">http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&amp;storycode=207117</a></p>
<p>and<br />
<a href="http://www.hltmag.co.uk/dec08/mart04.htm">http://www.hltmag.co.uk/dec08/mart04.htm</a></p>
<p>Or check out Vance Stevens’ list of screencast software:<br />
<a href="http://vancestevens.com/casting.htm#screencasting">http://vancestevens.com/casting.htm#screencasting</a></p>
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